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uniform regulations
Detailed below are the required, optional and recommended items of uniform and equipment
Re: uniform regulations
is this a post to be added to as it goes along? or is there a link to an actual list im missing?
what is the idea with regiments? is it one uniformed group or a mixture?
what is the idea with regiments? is it one uniformed group or a mixture?
deebo- Posts : 30
Join date : 2014-02-15
Re: uniform regulations
Hi - I'm drafting up a guide to the kit... It's done just need to check it and post it... Will be up before the weekend...
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
Jon - I'll send you the regs to approve before I post them - As Ann aside, it won't let me post anything with attachments for 7 days anyway!
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
Hello Deebo - I've created the uniform guide... I'll be posting it as soon as I can figure out how to on this forum system...!
I'm proposing that where possible, we attend as a single unit to give slightly more cohesion. In the past, there have been no such restrictions other than portrayals of British BD wearing units who were actually there.
In reality, there was next to no unit insignia at the time as much of the first war and pre-WW2 insignia had been eradicated by introduction of the new BD in the late 1930s... So in many regards, the only thing to tell people apart would be the cap badge on their FS caps.
Some units were using khaki slip on titles for the epaulettes...
There would have been groups of stragglers everywhere in the retreat... but I think it might be more realistic to have a bulk of infantry troops from a single unit with one or two stragglers from the likes of the Royal Engineers (or whatever) or another infantry unit...
Anyway, as such, I'll be going as 2nd Battalion Wiltshires, 13th Infantry Brigade, 5th Infantry Division. I'm not from Wiltshire. I've no local ties. I'm originally a Geordie who now lives in Sussex! I've just picked the WILTS because that's the unit John Mills is with in the 1958 film Dunkirk before he and a few other lads under the command of Mr Lumpkin are left to demolish the road bridge... they only become separated because the unit pulls out. The lorry is left behind for them but is knocked out by the German plane...
Anyway, I digress...
I'm proposing that where possible, we attend as a single unit to give slightly more cohesion. In the past, there have been no such restrictions other than portrayals of British BD wearing units who were actually there.
In reality, there was next to no unit insignia at the time as much of the first war and pre-WW2 insignia had been eradicated by introduction of the new BD in the late 1930s... So in many regards, the only thing to tell people apart would be the cap badge on their FS caps.
Some units were using khaki slip on titles for the epaulettes...
There would have been groups of stragglers everywhere in the retreat... but I think it might be more realistic to have a bulk of infantry troops from a single unit with one or two stragglers from the likes of the Royal Engineers (or whatever) or another infantry unit...
Anyway, as such, I'll be going as 2nd Battalion Wiltshires, 13th Infantry Brigade, 5th Infantry Division. I'm not from Wiltshire. I've no local ties. I'm originally a Geordie who now lives in Sussex! I've just picked the WILTS because that's the unit John Mills is with in the 1958 film Dunkirk before he and a few other lads under the command of Mr Lumpkin are left to demolish the road bridge... they only become separated because the unit pulls out. The lorry is left behind for them but is knocked out by the German plane...
Anyway, I digress...
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
ill be happy to go as what ever is needed, my granddad was with the 92nd field regt RA and think they were attached to 5th division although I might have my wires crossed,ill check it up in a min.but happy to go as and whats needed.
have a idea on most kit,but would be could to have a clear guide.
have a idea on most kit,but would be could to have a clear guide.
deebo- Posts : 30
Join date : 2014-02-15
Uploading a PDF
Dear All,
The uniform guide is created but I can't seem to upload it onto this forum... Anyone any ideas?
If you'd like to have a copy in the meantime, please send me your e-mail address and I'll forward you the PDF...
Regards,
Pete
The uniform guide is created but I can't seem to upload it onto this forum... Anyone any ideas?
If you'd like to have a copy in the meantime, please send me your e-mail address and I'll forward you the PDF...
Regards,
Pete
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
Pete,
Bang them over to me. Usual address.
Cheers
PJ
Bang them over to me. Usual address.
Cheers
PJ
PJ Knight- Posts : 8
Join date : 2014-03-01
Re: uniform regulations
Guide sent to all who requested it including Jon Heyworth.
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
Amended version (2.0 March 2014) now done and sent out...
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
May I have a copy too? Never mind, I can't post my email either....
New members are not allowed to post external links or emails for 7 days. Please contact the forum administrator for more information.
Bazooka_Joe- Posts : 30
Join date : 2014-03-02
Re: uniform regulations
Don't worry I'll get a set to you... Private message me and I'll send you my email address
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
having a lot of trouble with my email account and cant open documents so have created a new account as only so much I can read on my iphone before my eyes start to bleed ha ha.
could you resend pdf to dandeebo@gmail.com
thanks
could you resend pdf to dandeebo@gmail.com
thanks
deebo- Posts : 30
Join date : 2014-02-15
Re: uniform regulations
Lads - The repro gas mask bag offered by SOF is a MKV and not a MKVI... This is fine... Feel free to use a MKV, MKVC or a MKVI...
Kind regards,
Pete
Kind regards,
Pete
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TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
the mkv bag ive found on SOF says is a new repro.does the strap still have to be changed? if so where could I find suitable a strap?
deebo- Posts : 30
Join date : 2014-02-15
Re: uniform regulations
Get yourself to some fairs and have a hunt around first... Yes the SOF ones are repros...
The originals are far from impossible to find...
The originals are far from impossible to find...
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
is there any chance that you could send over the uniform regs to me on my email? I am keen to have a look through. My emil address is shown below
samharris45@hotmail.com
samharris45@hotmail.com
samharris45- Posts : 24
Join date : 2014-02-28
Age : 37
Location : Nottingham
Re: uniform regulations
might sound a silly question and might not matter either way,but would 1940 dated helmets have been issued or would of they have been 1939? I know there the same helmet except the date but would 1940 have made it over before the evacuation
deebo- Posts : 30
Join date : 2014-02-15
Re: uniform regulations
Has something actually been posted or are we providing are e-mail addresses to get the regs? If so, Jon could you send them to my peoplepc address? Thanks,
Verne
Verne
vjenkin1- Posts : 35
Join date : 2014-03-16
Age : 67
Location : Florida USA
Re: uniform regulations
The date in a helmet will not matter if it has the correct appearance as outlined in the regs...
Verne - PM me you email address for the uniform regs. For some reason I can't find how to post PDFs on here...
Verne - PM me you email address for the uniform regs. For some reason I can't find how to post PDFs on here...
TubbyBinns- Posts : 118
Join date : 2014-02-18
Location : Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Re: uniform regulations
Hi Pete. The system won't let me post external links for 7 days, so hopefully you can decipher this. tottspurs10 at peoplepc dot com. Leave out the spaces, put the at symbol in, and substitute for the dot. BTW, where in Brighton do you live? That's where I'm from.
vjenkin1- Posts : 35
Join date : 2014-03-16
Age : 67
Location : Florida USA
Re: uniform regulations
I understand the regulations are done now but one quick thing on kit and something I've noticed a lot of BEF re-enactors doing, water bottle carriers with the press stud to the front.
As I understand it this stems from a photo in 'The World War II Tommy', the photograph in question uses a naval 1919 pattern carrier in error, SoF are even reproducing them now, this is wrong, British made and issued 1937 pattern skeleton bottle carriers always had the press stud closure on two short straps meeting on the shoulder of the bottle (excluding 1950s examples with buckles in place but that's irrelevant to us.)
As I understand it this stems from a photo in 'The World War II Tommy', the photograph in question uses a naval 1919 pattern carrier in error, SoF are even reproducing them now, this is wrong, British made and issued 1937 pattern skeleton bottle carriers always had the press stud closure on two short straps meeting on the shoulder of the bottle (excluding 1950s examples with buckles in place but that's irrelevant to us.)
SLMoore- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-03-02
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